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Real Estate Investors and Foreclosure Consequences-what a story!!


by John Reed
(Dayton, Ohio)



The House I built from Dumpster Parts

Back in the early 90's I had 5 rental properties that I refinanced and pulled equity out of... but I did it with the Banks assurances that if I bought anymore properties, and did full rehabs on them, I would be able to refinance them with them (the Bank). I bought 4 more, did all the work, they were up and running with tenants in each. I went to the Bank and low and behold they wouldn't even talk to me! Even though all my bills had been paid on time and I had a better balance sheet than the first time I received refinancings. Since I had been buying and rebuilding on Credit Cards, the house tumbled and I lost it all. About half a Million Dollars worth. I filed a Chapter 7 Bankruptcy in 1997, relieving myself of all obligations. 10 YEARS later, the Bank was still reporting that I owed money on these Mortgages, ruining my Credit! But I must Backup in time here. 1996 I entered the Information Technology (IT) Industry and went to work for a Contractor servicing my State's Govt. After spending 2 1/2 years there, my contract was terminated. Although I had gotten rave reviews on every employee report, my particular Contractor had run low on cash and had missed paying their Employee's, twice in a 2 month period, and this was grounds for the State to stop accepting any more contracts from them. So OK, I had saved some cash and I went looking for work and found it with a Mortgage Co. He was a single person entity, but offered me an opportunity to learn and needed someone to teach him computers at the same time. I did my part and he kept putting off paying me, and then he died. Owing me almost $50,000. I contacted an Attorney and ended up with a judgment that's just plain old uncorrectable. On to another Mortgage Co., and when I saw the charges they were levying against their customers (like $250 for faxing a pile of documents along with a $300 administration fee and more and more and more) I just had to quit. I was fairly broke, disgusted, trying all the while to get my credit rating back into some kind of "Good" area. I sent over 100 letters to the 3 Credit Bureau's and the Bank, trying to get them to erase the "Mortgages still owed" from my Credit Report, but they'd only change the amounts owed, once having me owing $6,000,000.00 on 5 houses in an area where the nicest house at the time was lucky to bring $60,000.00! In 2000, broke, having to move from a $100 a month room I'd been renting from a friend because I couldn't afford it anymore I moved to a family owned vacant lot with a "40 year old shed" on it. Raccoon Heaven! I kicked out the Raccoons (they didn't leave peaceably) and started adding on to the shed so as to have a place I could survive the winter through. Now all the while, I'm putting out applications & resumes. No response. Remember, my Credit rating is being trashed all this time by the Bank and I'm trying for IT jobs where Credit Ratings are easy to get off of a computer. Anyway, I'm starving. A friend from grade school finds out my predicament and starts bring me food everyday, another has me help him do some work (very part time)every week and finally I have enough to get electricity (on a temporary service pole) and get a phone and can drive (a little) because I can buy some gas. With a phone also came computer access. I have child support, elec., a phone with computer access (NETZERO) and a little gas money and my friend decides she's going to move in with me (in a 10' X 20' shed) because she's living with her parents and she's turned into a terrible alcoholic and they want her gone, but she's been feeding me for about 6 months now so how can I say no? She (with a Master's Degree in English now mind you) can only get a job at the local Meijer's as a check out clerk, her alcoholism is way past her being able to work as a teacher and her drivers license has not existed for a few years already. So I drive her to work each day and on the way back I stop at each and every McMansion building site that I pass and raid the dumpsters for building supplies. It is amazing, the waste created by our society today. I was able to build about 98% of the house I'm now losing with parts scavenged from building site dumpsters. Then I found out about "Trash Days" locally, so I started doing that 4 day event every year and was able to completely furnish the house, get my lawn equipment, outdoor furniture and almost everything I now own. Of course I did have to fix it all before I could use it, but I'm pretty resourceful and not a lazy person so I fixed it and have it all now. That's also not to say I know everything, I had to research just about everything to find out just HOW to fix it. Lot's and lots of research and just plain old hard work. What I didn't have time to do was work for someone else, but that didn't really seem to matter much compared to "it's raining and there's no roof up yet, or it's snowing and there's no insulation and I'm out of kerosene or a million other things like that and besides, whereas I was still putting out applications and resumes, I still was NOT getting any replies! Bad Credit? or Too Old for the IT world? Whatever, when you're back's against the wall to stay warm and eat, you don't have time to ask those questions. There's just to much more to do.

So imagine my feelings when the Tax Man shows up at my door and says "Hey, we hear you've been building out here and we stopped by to chek it out and sure enough, you've been building. Tell ya what, since you didn't pull any permits, but it's obvious you know what you're doing, how about we just back date the house to whenever the shed's foundation was made and call the house built back then. Of course this sounded great to me, but then I got the $9,000 back Tax's due bill and right behind it a letter of foreclosure from the County Tax Man.

For 6 years I'm living like a 3rd world citizen, scrambling through dumpsters getting my parts, my furniture, my clothes and yes, even some of my food, and now I'm hit with a foreclosure for "back Tax's" on a property I built with my own 2 hands out of Dumpster parts. I went looking for a Mortgage, actually, they came looking for me!

I told the guy at H&R Block the same thing I'm writing here, he said what a story and said I should finance with an ARM for the first 2 years and then refinance again because of my Credit Report and the direction Interest rates were going. We worked out the figures and he showed me how to bank the money and pay myself some each month to develop a monthly income on my Bank Statements so that when I refinanced I could use the Bank Statements for a "Stated Income" loan. Which I did.

My House appraised for $125,000.00, I got a $100,000.00 loan that cost about $7,000.00 plus everything else from H&R Block. I toold they guy at H&R Block that I sure didn't want to get screwed the same way I did the last time by not being able to refinance again in 2 years because I had acquired a lot more building materials and was still wanting to build more. My thought was that If I could keep building, and living like a pauper, then I could force the equity higher and higher and eventually sell and have some money left over and to that end, since acquiring the mortgage I've added a bedroom, hand dug out a basement, installed a Highway noise deadening fence (which was really more a need than just a pleasantry), put up a small barn and added 3 decks and an RV Parking place. And I still can come out ahead if I could just refinance and pull out the equity I've put into it in the last 2 years and if I can just somehow keep this place. He assured me that it wouldn't be a problem. I called back 2 years later, sorry, we won't do that. So the money I'd put back to make payments with is now gone... gone to pay back some of the debt I was forced into by the Tax Man. I still owe $98,000.00 on the mortgage, after paying about $800 a month for over 2 years and I'm presently behind 3 months in my mortgage payments. I haven't yet received a foreclosure notice, but I know it's coming and it worries me till I've gotten physically sick more than once. No where to go, no family I can fall back on and no money to get me anywhere and after 10 years of trying to get my Credit back in good standing, it's shot again.

I'm angry, I'm depressed to the point of constant exhaustion, I've tried at least 12 different Mortgage Co.s, to no avail but to some expense. I don't drink except very occasionally when someone else buys, I don't do drugs but I do smoke, but I roll my own and have for over 8 years now (a LOT cheaper!), and I'm at my wits end. Last time, when I lost all the properties, as soon as I contacted my Lender, they foreclosed immediately. So I'm afraid to do that again, hoping to forestall the procedure any way I can. But, having lived through it once I know it's coming and I do not want to live on a cold street in Dayton Ohio again. What shall I do? Very Sincerely, John A. Reed


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Real Estate Investors and Foreclosure Consequences-what a story!!


Dec 02, 2007
Real Estate Investing and Foreclosure
by: Support

What many of real estate investors are facing during their investing adventure?
This is a very long story but we want to keep this here to show what some of the investors are going through. What consequences they are paying if they make mistakes.
We are welcome here anyone who would like to comment. Real estate industry professionals and especially investors to share their stories.

John, please get in touch with us to discuss your options.

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